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Monday, April 25, 2005

Nigerian Men and their Foreign Wives

Increasingly, and in greater numbers, Nigerian men are marrying non-Nigerian women. In droves, they are marrying Caribbean nationals, White-Americans and African-Americans. They are marrying, not for the primarily purpose of acquiring “greencard,” but for other noble reasons. They marry, not for the curiosity, but because they are bonded and are determined to make a success of the marriage institution; they are bonded by love and faith and a commitment to one another to live their lives as one in a happy matrimony.

The more I notice this phenomenon, the more I wonder about some Nigerian men. I wonder. Culturally, Nigerian men are overbearing, controlling, and paternalistic. They relate to their fathers and mothers differently. They believe it is “a man’s world” and so they have the tendency to relegate women to subservient roles. True, things are changing. True globalization and modernity and westernization are impacting the Nigerian culture. In cities across Nigeria, these changes are noticeable; but over all, the effects of these changes are minimal. A Nigerian may be well read, well educated and well traveled, in the end though, he will succumb to the weight and influence of the Nigerian culture.

We have a society where anthropological and sociological behaviors are still paramount. For instance, a great many Nigerians still practice levirate and sororate marriage, and they also engage in polygyny, bridewealth, and matrilocal and patrilocal living arrangements. And in spite of westernization, Nigerians are still not comfortable with public display of affection, i.e. kissing and verbal declaration of love; and neither are they comfortable with open and public discussions of abortion, sex and exotic sex acts. That Nigerians are not comfortable with such public declarations and have not completely embraced westernization is due, to a large extent, on the hold the traditional African culture has on the vast majority of the populace. At the core of every Nigerian, and indeed every African, is the thumbprint, the umbilical cord of their ancestors.

This non-public declaration and display of love and affection is not unique to Nigerians living in Nigeria. No! The vast majority of Nigerians living in the United States are loath to engage in such practices, too. Furthermore, most Nigerians do not engage in endearing practices like candlelight dinners, flower giving, romantic walk by the lake or park, or even running the bath for their wives or lovers. It would surprise most westerners to know that a typical Nigerian father or mother would rarely, if ever, utter affectionate or confidence-building words like “I love you…” to their children; yet, the children have no doubt that their parents love them. Children are the crowing glory of any respectable Nigerian family.

Haven digressed a bit, I return to the issue of Nigerian men and their foreign wives. I am stunned, perplexed, taken aback by the transformation Nigerian men, married to non-Nigerian women, have gone through in the United States (and perhaps all over the Western world). My goodness, here are a group of macho men, fiercely independent, with a burgeoning sense of entitlement who thinks the world belongs to them; and that women are made to be at their beck-and-call. Here they are; they have suddenly or gradually gone soft and sensitive and romantic and wide-eyed. How did these groups of men become “oh baby, oh baby” kind of guys? How did they become “yes honey, yes sweetheart, yes darling” kind of fellas? What has happened to them? What got to their hearts and soul?
How were they able to adjust to living under a different set of rules and matrimonial conventions? How is it that a breed of men married to their fellow countrywomen would behave in a given and predictable manner; but then adjust to a different matrimonial lifestyle when married to foreigners? When they are with the Nigerian women, these men are all about control and power and they expect their wives to cook and clean and raise babies and provide sex on demand; but with the foreign wives, their balls shrink! Such men live by schedule. They have daily and weekly schedule of when to do the laundry and the dishes; of whose turn it is to empty the thrash; and of whose turn it is to sweep and mop the floor; and of when to eat out and cook at home.

These men -- especially if married to White women -- feel lucky and grateful and mightily blessed. These men meet and exceed all matrimonial expectations; but would rubbish and dominate their Nigerian women. What is it about a White woman that makes the Nigerian male lose his senses? Could it be because of their skin color and their supposed sensuality and submissive attitude in bed? Could it be because they engage in all kinds of mind-altering sexual acts that, understandably, the Nigerian woman would NOT engage in? Or perhaps it has to do with the warped mentality of some Nigerian men who thinks everything white is good and desirable and so must be had!

Why are Nigerian men afraid to turn control over to their Nigerian wives? Why are they averse to showing their sensitive side? Why the need to control and dominate? Why are Nigerian men reluctant to take their wives on a romantic walk to the parks and beaches, buy roses and cards? Why the need to bottle up their romantic side? Why have they refused to do for their Nigerian wives what they would heartily do for non-Nigerian women? After all, Nigerian women, unlike their foreign counterparts usually do not demand to be co-captains of the house. They usually do not demand for more than is earthly possible. And way more than their foreign counterparts they understand what it means to be a wife and a partner; they understand what it means to be part of the extended family.

When it comes to matters of life, love and death, Nigerian women have stood by their husbands. They are there during the passing of their in-laws; they give succor in times of crisis. These women understand what the African family is all about. But not much can be said about non-Nigerian wives who may not even find it necessary to visit or attend marriage or burial ceremonies in their husbands’ ancestral homes. For non-Nigerian wives, life begins and ends in American. For these women, marriage is not about marrying into another family; it is about “us and us alone.” And in fact, they would rather you not bother them with stories about your extended families and the need for the monthly or quarterly remittances.

Yes, some of us can’t help with whom we fall in love; but to the extent that one can, I would rather a Nigerian. A Nigerian woman is not likely to throw you out of your home; she is not likely to call the cops on you based on flimsy reasons; she is not likely to drag you through the judicial system; she is not likely to throw the divorce papers at you at the slightest provocation; she is not likely to turn her backs at you in times of financial difficulties and other crises. In order words: Nigerian women are likely to stay and be loving and generous and supportive for the long haul! Again and again and again, they have proven that of all God’s creations, they are the very best. And indeed, they are!

55 Comments:


  • At April 28, 2005 9:50 AM, Anonymous said…

    This is a refreshing change. Rarely do you find postings or articles on Nigerian websites praising Nigerian women. More often than not one finds writings on how they've been corrupted, westernized (by the way, this seems to be a phenomenon that only happens to Naija women), and they now abandon their homes, husband and children at whim.

    Yes, some Nigerian men are willing to do for foreigners what they won't consider for a moment doing for a Nigerian woman. This is a shame especially when one considers the strains and stresses of living and raising a family in the western world.

     

  • At May 05, 2005 5:06 PM, Kishi (from Canada) said…

    Kish from Canada:
    why do some "African" have a need to only understand marriage as it relates to their country, their town, their religion, or their continent. I was born in Angola and came to Canada at a very young age and married a Jamaican. I was engaged in conversation with a taxi driver from Ghana who asked me why I didn't marry an African. If I had married a white woman he would have asked me why I didn't marry a black woman. The bottom line is that we love each other and have been for 23 years. Marrying within your own race, religion, or culture may make others arouond you happy but does not guarantee happiness for yourself. Bless those who have found love regardless for love is a very fleeting thing and should not be taken for granted.

     

  • At May 08, 2005 2:14 PM, african american (foreign wife) said…

    I think what is failed to be said here is that marriage is a give and take. The "foreign wife" gives up plenty also to marry the man of her dreams. The unknowing of who this person truly is because most of us have met online. The doubts of our parents of bring a foreigner into their family and their homes. Accepting of Nigerian's customs, desires, and simply things such as food choices. So to make it sound as though he is gaining nothing in return for a foreign wife is an insult. I love my Nigerian husband and would never disrespect, degrade or go against his wishes for our home. He is a King in my eyes and is treated as such and he treats me as a Queen. So to say that a Nigerian woman is the better choice and more giving and will stand by her man through think and thin is ridiculous. My husband was in Nija for nearly a year before coming to the states and due to unemployment I paid his bills and mind with out complaint, but now that he is here the reward has been great. See the give and take..

     

  • At May 17, 2005 9:39 PM, Anonymous said…

    hahaha, you have it all completely wrong.
    foreign women have heard rumors about african men being particularly well-endowed, so they try harder to get them ;) that's all there is to it. culture, schmulture-- it's all about the sex.

     

  • At May 25, 2005 11:41 AM, Anonymous said…

    First of all BULL_S***
    There is no such thing as Nigerian women being the best or best of the best nor American women or any other women for that matter that is your opinion so dont clarify it to be ture. Also for your information Iam an Afican American women who is deeply in love with a nigerian man has taken many trips to nija with him and met his friends and family and any time he talks about back home I gladly listen. So to you sir where ever you got your information from I would strongly suggest that go back and check your facts

     

  • At May 28, 2005 8:03 AM, AA wife of an African said…

    I am confused. The writer makes it seem like performing "mind altering" sex acts for your husband is so far beneath Nigerian women, but that goes against this idea of Nigerian women being such loving, loyal wives. If Nigerian women are so in tuned to their husbands desires, shouldn't they dutifuly perform these sexual acts if he so desires? I mean it is their husband not some stranger off the street. We are talking about the man they promised to give themselves completely to. How can a woman refuse to give her husband the loving he desires and still think of herself as an obedient, loving wife who puts her husbands needs first?

     

  • At May 29, 2005 7:42 PM, Anonymous said…

    I am appalled at the comments about non-Nigerian women. I am a white American woman married to a Nigerian man. When we first got together, he sugarcoated everything about what he wanted from a wife and in a marriage. Once we were married, things changed completely. He said he wanted a family, and now a year later, he says he is not ready for one. We have had our differences in the definition of a "wife". I have told him I cannot be a Nigerian wife but that I am not going to be an American wife either. I want to be a biblical wife. This has been a big issue that we are trying to overcome. He is giving some and I am giving some. The thing is that he did not tell me this before we were married. Now, we are having to work things out because I (yes an American woman) do not believe in divorce and would not "throw divorce papers" at him. Another thing is that I have tried to stand by him on his family issues. Right now we cannot go to the marriages and funerals, etc., of his family because he is in school and we cannot travel to Nigeria right now. He did lose his father and I tried to be there for him. Guess what? He pushed me away and told me he did not want to talk about it. I love hearing about his family and his culture. I would love to be more of a part of it, but he cannot seem to allow me to be in it more. You see, our situation is just the opposite of what you said. I want to be a part of everything and he cannot seem to let me do that. Not me. I was raised that family is everything in life. I thought he felt the same way. Now, I see it is more important to me than him. So, my point is that every situation is not the same and that God made every women beautiful that wants to be a biblical wife not just Nigerian wives.

     

  • At May 30, 2005 7:19 PM, Anonymous said…

    Nigerians SUCK

     

  • At June 19, 2005 8:21 PM, Anonymous said…

    This is so very sad for me as a African American single woman. I met a very intelligent Nigerian man who sees me as a woman. And I see myself as his woman whose ancestors are from Africa but came to America for whatever reasons. We need to stop bashing each other and start embracing one another. I just spent 2 weeks in Nigeria with my Nigerian fiance in Port Harcourt. He and his whole family made me feel like family. This sounds like another form of prejudice. LIKE RODNEY KING SAID why can we all not get along

     

  • At June 26, 2005 9:51 PM, Anonymous said…

    You know, I find the attitude of some closed minded Nigerian men very interesting. We are speaking of Nigerian women versus non-Nigerian women( as we are being referred to) and who is better to be with the Nigerian man? You know who is better? The one that loves him the most. I have been married to a Nigerian man for over 9 years and believe me when I tell you, if his family could chose a Nigerian wife for him, they would not do it. Do you know why? Because they love me and they feel there is no one better for their brother. My husband is a very traditional yoruba man, but over the years, he has softened and I have encouraged him to understand that my feelings and opinion are important. Because he loves me, we are a team and we are equal partners. Yes, I do cook for him and serve him,but that is not because I have to, it is because my mom also did it for my dad when I was growing up and it is one of the ways that I show him that I love him. You have to know how to deal with your man. Part of being with someone of another culture is embracing and understanding that culture and for africans, culture and traditon are very, very important to them. You can never separate them from that, so for myself, I have traveled to Nigeria twice in the last four years and I can cook the traditional dishes for my husband as well as wear the traditional iro and buba, damask or gelee. If you didn't hear me speak, you would never know that I am not Nigerian when I go to parties or naming ceremonies. There are some men, like the writer, who are stereotyping, like a lot of Africans do about African-Americans, that we call the police for every little thing and that the only reason that Nigerian men are with us if for the "mind-altering sex". In my opinion, some Nigerian women are sexually repressed and because they have been taught that sex is for the man and to procreate, they have never learned to enjoy it and their men know that, so they don't help them enjoy it. However, a Nigerian man knows that when he decides to be with an African-American women, that will not be the case. We love having sex and pleasing our husbands and in turn, they are also pleasing us. So, sex is a mutual,loving experience. When Nigerian men come to the U.S., they know they will get an education in how to make love to a woman and they love it. Now, there are some Nigerian girls that are doing things nastier than anything we can think up, they are just on the down low and because of the way sex is viewed, they don't want anybody to know they are freaks. To the caucasian lady whose husband does not want her to be involved, I would say be careful, because the culture is such a large part of who he is and if he is not willing to share that with you, either he does not love you or he is ashamed to invite you into his world. You need to insist that he allow you to be a part.

     

  • At June 26, 2005 9:51 PM, Anonymous said…

    You know, I find the attitude of some closed minded Nigerian men very interesting. We are speaking of Nigerian women versus non-Nigerian women( as we are being referred to) and who is better to be with the Nigerian man? You know who is better? The one that loves him the most. I have been married to a Nigerian man for over 9 years and believe me when I tell you, if his family could chose a Nigerian wife for him, they would not do it. Do you know why? Because they love me and they feel there is no one better for their brother. My husband is a very traditional yoruba man, but over the years, he has softened and I have encouraged him to understand that my feelings and opinion are important. Because he loves me, we are a team and we are equal partners. Yes, I do cook for him and serve him,but that is not because I have to, it is because my mom also did it for my dad when I was growing up and it is one of the ways that I show him that I love him. You have to know how to deal with your man. Part of being with someone of another culture is embracing and understanding that culture and for africans, culture and traditon are very, very important to them. You can never separate them from that, so for myself, I have traveled to Nigeria twice in the last four years and I can cook the traditional dishes for my husband as well as wear the traditional iro and buba, damask or gelee. If you didn't hear me speak, you would never know that I am not Nigerian when I go to parties or naming ceremonies. There are some men, like the writer, who are stereotyping, like a lot of Africans do about African-Americans, that we call the police for every little thing and that the only reason that Nigerian men are with us if for the "mind-altering sex". In my opinion, some Nigerian women are sexually repressed and because they have been taught that sex is for the man and to procreate, they have never learned to enjoy it and their men know that, so they don't help them enjoy it. However, a Nigerian man knows that when he decides to be with an African-American women, that will not be the case. We love having sex and pleasing our husbands and in turn, they are also pleasing us. So, sex is a mutual,loving experience. When Nigerian men come to the U.S., they know they will get an education in how to make love to a woman and they love it. Now, there are some Nigerian girls that are doing things nastier than anything we can think up, they are just on the down low and because of the way sex is viewed, they don't want anybody to know they are freaks. To the caucasian lady whose husband does not want her to be involved, I would say be careful, because the culture is such a large part of who he is and if he is not willing to share that with you, either he does not love you or he is ashamed to invite you into his world. You need to insist that he allow you to be a part.

     

  • At July 01, 2005 12:15 PM, Anonymous said…

    Hello Mr. Abidde
    First of all I would like to commend you on your insight and ability to see the truth. I agree with almost everything that you wrote. (except for the parts about Nigerian families not knowing how to say I love you and display affection publicly,etc. b/c my family does) I am a Nigerian woman who WILL marry an Nigerian man and I believe that little do these white girls and black americans that are leaving these ridiculous comments know that by refuting with these weak points, they are reinforcing your points in your essay. The cliche words including "he is my King and I am his Queen" are not applicable to this issue. In fact, you shouldnt even be able to comment on the essay if you arent Nigerian! There is no way that a non-Nigerian would even begin to know if they are what their Nigerian man needs. Just because he dresses you up in traditional clothing,you learned how to make a Nigerian dish,and at parties you feel like you fit in, please know that you have barely scratched the surface of our deep,complex, beautiful culture that you will NEVER be a part of. How much more ignorant could you be to think that by merely embracing the obvious things in MY culture that you have the right to now look in from the other side and start judging Nigerian women and their aspect on marriage. Although I am young I am light years ahead of all of you "happily married" women who think that they've evaded the stereotype by staying with their Nigerian husband for 10 years. Let me put it in your terms: "Girl Please". There is nothing like and you will never be able to attain the phenemenon that is naturally in a Nigerian woman. However, with this being said, I can only say that when these Nigerian men who marry these under par women get thrown in jail or left in Nigeria, then they will see.

     

  • At July 06, 2005 11:46 AM, Raven said…

    Let's keep in mind one thing here. God didn't give men the same "thinking process" he gave women. A man has a totally different mentality than a woman. Men and women will never think a like - they have different thought patterns. Now, until this is understood there will always be misunderstandings in relationships - be it Nigerian, American or whatever.
    I am an African American woman married to a Nigerian man and I find him to be a MAN with a different thought pattern than mine. So, we work to understand each other. Until women can realize that men think differently than women there will always be misunderstandings.

     

  • At July 07, 2005 6:03 PM, Anonymous said…

    To the "little girl" that made the childish comment about non-Nigerian women not being able to know what a Nigerian man needs, listen up. Maybe you can shed some insight as to what a Nigerian man needs. Let me see....someone who he is compatible with, someone who is his equal intellectually and physically, someone who he can talk to and who he can introduce to his friends and be proud of. Let me be perfectly clear, I have no desire to be a Nigerian woman, I am very proud to be a well educated African-American woman and I would never change that. But your comments definitely belie your age. All the Nigerian women that I know are very accepting and have always made me feel included,even my mother in law, who speaks no english! The point I was making is that Nigerian men are marrying other women because that is where they find love. I know plenty of Nigerian men that would never marry their own women and they have told me that, so you figure it out! My husband's friends (especially those that are married to Nigerian women) say they wish they could find someone like me. I think it comes down to some Nigerian women are just jealous because their own men don't want them. Isn't that a shame!!! Boo hoo.

     

  • At July 11, 2005 9:31 PM, Anonymous said…

    The comments of all merit all respect...because they are opinions, and like each individual has their own personality, so do our opinions.
    Clearly, the issues are hard and may take years of conversation and discussion to conclude. One fact is certain that. The role that is being played by the Nigerian man here in America or Nigeria is important, because to marry and birth children is imperative for HIS traditional survival. But even for greater than this is his drive for "self" SUCCESS. Which at any cost he will seek to fulfill. Whether he marry and divorce and marry again and divorce, it is for HIS moving upward. He may marry for advantage (and never say so) and remain in that state, whatever the cost, but only for his add-vantage. This is sad, but true. He does not remain where he sees NO GAIN FOR HIM-SELF.
    So Ladies...look back through the past of your relationship, the present, and the possibly the future. Are you an asset to him?...or are you a potential demise? If you are the latter then prepare yourself to be alone, no matter how much "I love you" you hear. He will not STAY...no matter how white or how black, AA or NG.
    The real matter is "GAIN." Not sex, he will get that else where.
    M-O-N-E-Y.
    Think about ALL the stories ALL of of us have heard... The pains suffered and endured to reach and stay in this "despised, envied" country. MONEY MONEY MONEY SUCCESS SUCCESS.
    I will leave you with this one thought, judge if truth or not. A NG man married a Amer. woman and the woman did what she could to help him move forward but not enough for him. At the advice of his family He left her and found another wife. Ironically, an NG woman married a Amer. man and the man did all to move forward but the woman worked for herself. (saving all she got without helping the man at all)
    When the man filed bankruptcy, she, at the advice of her family, divorced him, took all that was left, and married a NG man.

     

  • At July 15, 2005 7:31 AM, Anonymous said…

    i find most of the comments on this site very interesting, my thoughts however, are that usually more likely than not a nigerian man would probably prefer a nigerian woman. I just think it is sad that there are so many preconceived perceptions about the non-nigerian woman. As an african American who has dated nigerians, I can tell you that they are some values that we do share such as family,christianity (in some cases),culture and so forth. It is true that there are some differences (but so is the case among any two individuals).I think people should consider the person they love, the one who loves them and whom they are compatible with and can raise a family, these things are essential to a good marriage and if you are both interested enough in each other everything else can be learnt. So in summary "to thine own self be true." But to the nigerian men, if you know you have no intention of being with a non-nigerian woman do not go after them so strongly, because belive it or not we are actually capable of loving you unconditionally.

     

  • At July 21, 2005 5:04 AM, Anonymous said…

    I find that the comments about nigerian men needing to marry nigerian women to be a little self centered. I bet if you fell in love with a non-nigerian man you would marry him regardless of his country or culture. You say that mixed marriages take work...but what marriage these days doesnt take work. I am a white southern hemisphere woman married to a nigerian. I admit that there are differences between the ways we would like to live our lives but hey if i was with a man from my own country there still would be lifestyle differences....if u are in love u learn to love the diffences and each others culture...yes i will never be a nigerian woman but my husband fell in love with me....not my culture....and for one thing us so called "non-nigerian women" dont look for men who can give us money, we get out there and make it ourself...i witnessed many comments by women on my trip to nigeria... everything they talked about was if this man could give them money or not...it seemed that they dont even marry for love

     

  • At July 25, 2005 1:12 PM, Anonymous said…

    Wow, I am amazed that in this day and age some people still have such closed-minded views of marriage. I am a West Indian (that is someone from the Eastern Caribbean) who is VERY happily married to a Nigerian. There are many similarities in our cultures, however we do have quite a number of differences as well. For your information Mr. Abidde, at the time we got married, we were two mature consenting adults, who by the way are both christians. We were very capable of knowing whether or not we were willing to spend our lives together. Now, why my husband didn't marry a nigerian woman is not my problem. I love the culture of Nigeria very much. I have embraced this culture with all my heart. Foreign wives are not helpless. As in my case, I am a great cook, who made it my business to learn to make the cuisine of my husbands heart. All this to say that most people marry because they love each other. So I say "Cheers" to all the nigerian men and nigerian wives as well as nigerian men and their FOREIGN wives!

     

  • At July 25, 2005 11:35 PM, Anonymous said…

    My nigerian husband fell in love at first with my humble and caring attitude long time before he could even enjoy my cooking or my cleaning skills. I had nothing to offer to him that he didn't already have except love. We, the "Foreign wifes" also bring our own background to a marriage. And because, our differences are appreciated by our own husbands, nothing else matters. Nobody feel jealous about nigerian women, but pity for all the "slavery" they have to endure in the name of their culture/traditions. I believe a woman should please a man without being obligated by family or tradition's pressure but because she feels it and she enjoys it. Therefore, the status of nigerian women in their own culture/tradition is not envied by any other women in this world and we, "foreign" wifes, proudly keep our own identity with or without cooking Egusi soup or wearing nigerian gowns!!!!!

     

  • At July 28, 2005 3:41 AM, Anonymous said…

    I find it very ironic that the "foreign wives" are so quick to insult the Nigerian wives/women while forgetting that their beloved Nigerian husbands wouldn't be here for them to love if it weren't for some Nigerian woman that married a Nigerian man whom together produced the object of her love, namely her Nigerian husband of whom she's so proud. How can people be so in love with a culture and put down the very people who are the keepers of that culture's flame? Any sociologist will tell you that without women who bear children and in turn become their children's first point of contact, cultural or otherwise, the culture of which the "foreign" wives are so proud would cease to exist. I am a Nigerian born, American bred woman who has a unique perspective on this issue. While I choose not to "diss" my foreign counterparts, I will tell you that for all of your musings about how much you "belong" and how much your husband's family "loves you", you are sort of at a loss when it comes to TRULY knowing whether you are indeed liked or not because you do not speak the language of your husband nor his family. If you are basing your knowledge of how well liked you are by your husband, his family, and his friends on what your husband and/or some kind people "translate" to you, all I can say is "good luck with that" while pointing out that your proof of the affections of your husband's family/friends may be lacking. I have grown up in the Nigerian community watching and, sometimes laughing, as the unknowing foreign wife is introduced to everyone at a Nigerian function. The Nigerians, actors that they are, all make nice with the foreign wife and tell her what she wants to hear in English, only to later comment in their own native tongues on how "Akkattas" have no culture of their own, so they must parasitically feast on someone else's. I think it is somewhat naive to think that one can ever be "Fully" accepted into another's culture. I have been in America all of my life and still do not feel fully American and I don't think I ever will. If your husbands are so in love you, his foreign wife, why are you so angry and why do you care so much about what the "enslaved" Nigerian woman thinks? If you have the full acceptance of your husband and his family, why all the bickering and name calling? It seems the reason may be that the acceptance that you so loudly proclaim that you've received, has not really been obtained and probably never will be. My Nigerian fiance has been in this country for some time and has had occasion to date a lot of women of different races and ethnic backgrounds. So, while we were courting, I asked him why he never considered marrying any of them. He said it succinctly when he commented, "Americans are nomads. Wherever they settle, that is where they are from. We Nigerians are not like that. No matter where you go, if you meet another Nigerian, you both will be able to know one another not just as the person you're currently seeing, but as someone who's ancestral home can be easily traced." I think that says it all. While the foreign wives are so busy chasing after acceptance by their husband and their husband's culture, you are inadvertently proving that you yourselves are lacking something,whether it be cultural or otherwise, and that there is an emptiness that comes from not truly having a country of origin. Therefore, no matter how much you bad talk Nigerian women, please make note that there is a certain elegance and self-assurance that the Nigerian woman possesses that you will never possess...and that is the confidence that when you see us, we don't stand alone, but instead we stand upon the shoulders of strong Nigerian women before us who could not be so easily distracted away from their culture. And another thing, an elegant Nigerian woman would never discuss what happens in her bedroom between she and her husband. Call it frigid or prudish, but that subject is very private and I don't think there's anything wrong with choosing to not leave every detail of your married life gaping open for all to see. On the other hand, as we can see, nothing is to banal for a foreign wife to discuss. Peace and blessings to you all.

     

  • At July 30, 2005 9:58 PM, Anonymous said…

    Pleaaaaaase,let me remind you all that people from Nigeria are not the only ones with a cultural background. Other women come from Africa and equally possess elegance or self-assurance and whatever else. You guys want to make us believe that only women from Nigeria are special and above everyone else. That is why there is so many wars and injustice today in this world because people always think themselves as superior to others. White people killed blacks, Nazis killed Jews and now, Nigerian women are "killing" foreign women.Keep going,"As you sow so shall you reap".

     

  • At July 31, 2005 3:46 PM, Anonymous said…

    WHY MARRY NIGERIAN MEN???

    I do not see why there is so much hoopoola about marrying Nigerian men. I was married to one for several years and still have friends that are married to them. The fact is there are good Nigerian men who have embraced the times, their responsibilities as husbands etc.. (I am not writing about those especially my cousins who were born here in the states and are good loving husbands ) but for the most part... most Nigerian men are still the typical overbearing, cheating and still have the 'you are lucky to have my beer belly, hairy underarms, unshaven and unshorn privates to look at'.. YUK!!!
    That being said however, my peeve is with Nigerian women... WHY IN THE WORLD ARE YOU MARRYING THE MEN WHEN YOU SEE THE HANDWRITING ON THE WALL. The site that I set up for us women who married caucasian men, hispanic or just plain married non-africans.. had very few hits from Nigerian women.
    Is there some deal with the devil made by Nigerian women to marry these men??????
    Earth to Naija Gals.. GET A LIFE. There are other men out there worthy of you. Believe me, while marriage requires hard work and commitment to make it work for you, your spouse and children... one piece of baggage you do not need is some 'oreo' piece Nigerian man, who embraces the western culture of expecting you to share the financial buden but still ride you like a donkey as his father did his mother. Hee hee
    The amazing thing is that EDUCATED NIGERIAN WOMEN (DOCTORS, LAWYERS, ENGINEERS ET AL) are still holding out for this elusive Nigerian man!! If the problem is wanting someone to speak a Nigerian language with.. teach your mulatto offspring YORUBA, EDO, EFIK etc. You dig???
    FOR GOODNESS SAKE LADIES... THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.. THROW OFF THE VESTIGES OF SLAVERY AND THE NIGERIAN SOCIETAL CONSPIRACY which keeps women as the underdog.. who do not count--
    Can you not dop without one more 'na woman she born' Sorry o?

    LOOK FOR A NICE EDUCATED, ENLIGHTENED FOREIGN MAN AND SNAG HIM -PREFERABLY WHITE!!

    LIVE A LITTLE... THERE IS A LOT MORE THAN SWEATING UNDER THE WEIGHT OF A 2 MINUTE SEXUAL ROMP UNDERNEATH A BOBBING POT BELLIED HUSBAND. TRUST ME.. THERE IS Muchhhh more...

    Thank God I fled.. If I had to attend one more 'Ibo day' and hear some accolades given to Pastor Mr. Governor Chief blah blah.. I would have puked on the man.

    GOOD LUCK TO ALL... AND TO ALL WHO WAIT FOR THIS NIAJA APE.. GET YOUR SHAVERS READY... THERE IS A LOT OF HAIR TO CUT, WORK TO DO AND YEARS OF TRAINING TO ENDURE... :)

     

  • At August 05, 2005 3:13 PM, Paul Adujie said…

    Oh my goodness!

    These responses have been lessons in cross-cultural marriages and loves and heartaches and much more!

    These are true life's lessons, all!

    Some, especially the anonymous response on July 31, 2005 below, need some anger management lessons!

    She probably also need some real therapy!


    At July 31, 2005 3:46 PM, Anonymous said…

    WHY MARRY NIGERIAN MEN???

     

  • At August 06, 2005 4:38 PM, Angela said…

    Currently, I am dating my friend of two years whi is a Nigerian. He is 48 and I am a 29 year-old caucasian/asian. The article was partially true, that nigerian men have reserves on displaying love in public and expressing love verbally.My experience with him is that he does seem to behave as if he owns the world and has it"going on" I don't agree that nigerian are the best for such a man. I do believe that a woman with intergrity, who is gentle and with full confidence in herself can certainly be the best for any one. marriage is a very challenging and it requires the understanding of sticking around weather you feel like it or not. Marryin someone should not be about culture or race it really should be about spiritual reasons and unconditional love. I am very fond of Nigerian men and hope to marry one!

     

  • At August 09, 2005 8:56 AM, detroit said…

    I have been dating a nigerian man for almost a year now and after reading all your comments i don't know if its worth it to go on seeing him. I have noticed that he's not verbalize his feelings. Sometimes He doesn't call for days. Even though we are in a relationship i feel lonely. Don't get me wrong i really love him but i don't want to waste my time and get hurt in the end. Also does any american women that are married to a negerian man have children that are not his?

     

  • At August 09, 2005 8:56 AM, detroit said…

    I have been dating a nigerian man for almost a year now and after reading all your comments i don't know if its worth it to go on seeing him. I have noticed that he's not verbalize his feelings. Sometimes He doesn't call for days. Even though we are in a relationship i feel lonely. Don't get me wrong i really love him but i don't want to waste my time and get hurt in the end. Also does any american women that are married to a negerian man have children that are not his?

     

  • At August 09, 2005 4:36 PM, Anonymous said…

    Ha ha ha, I love this. Like paul adijie said, these responses have been lessons in life.
    From the ranting anonymous woman of July 31 who probably had a failed marriage with her Nigerian husband bcos she has some form of psychosis to the numerous foreign wives seeking to console themselves and confirm their importance to their husbands.
    Don't get me wrong, I am a Nigerian girl, pure breed Ijebu,can't even think of giving my children English names. But don't blame me, it's the way I was brought up. I grew up with a huge family, I grew up in an atmosphere where everyone was my father and mother, I grew up knowing the sentiments peculiar to my people. Now, knowing everything about a culture is something lifelong not something you can acquire.
    Meaning that more probabbly than not, I will understand a Nigerian man more than a foreigner except if the man is not a man who is deeply and firmly imbedded in his culture and roots. Infact, among Nigerians, there are still disparities in the tribes. I probably wouldnt be able to cope with an Ibo man or Hausa man as well.
    Notwithstanding, I think some men really find love with their Non-nigerian wife and depending on the man's adherence to his own culture, it lasts longer when the woman tries her best to understand some things about her man's culture.
    Let's just say that the more Nigerian a man is, the more likely he is to marry a Nigerian.
    But still, a big shout to all those foreigners married to Nigerian men. You guys, its not easy to be married to someone from another culture especially when you are the woman.
    I love my heritage anyway.

    adenike

     

  • At August 10, 2005 8:39 AM, Corinna said…

    I am a white english girl and am engaged to an Igbo man. We were together for a year and a half but broke up because he could not say he loved me. 4 months later, he realised that he couldn't live without me, and now he has no problems sharing his feelings with me. Although the sex is great, I've definately not put a spell on him, I just make him happy, so he is prepared to do the things he may not do for a Nigerian woman. The difference is that Nigerian women do not ask for what they want. I left Bisi which made him come to his senses. I too have changed my views and beliefs (I am becoming a Catholic) for him. We know that there will be problems in our future, but this can be expected from any marriage. I love hearing about Nigerian culture, but I wont be turning my back on my own, nor will I expect Bisi to. We are looking forward to having a children who will be lucky enough to experience two beautiful cultures.

     

  • At August 10, 2005 12:05 PM, Anonymous said…

    BTW, Corrinna from Aug 10, Bisi is not an Igbo name. Are u sure your guy is Igbo or Yoruba?

    adenike

     

  • At August 12, 2005 2:34 PM, Anonymous said…

    To Nigerian women, stop the attitude, you're losing good Nigerian men like me. I am kind , very romantic, own my business, well educated, nice looking, financially secure. All these quality is going to an American woman, because you will not smile at your nigerian brother, unless he's driving a benz. Now you can marry yourself. I have been happilly married now for 16yrs, to my beautiful American wife. My brother just arrived, if you dont shape up, he will also marry an american. It would have been nice to marry my own, but you loose.

    Boly

     

  • At August 12, 2005 8:13 PM, Anonymous said…

    to Boly, we are sooooooooo scared that we will lose your jolly just come (JJC) brother. Please tell us when your uncle and nephews arrive so we can be even more afraid and shape up. NONSENSE and INGREDIENTS

     

  • At August 13, 2005 11:03 AM, Blk Woman said…

    I found the article interesting. My husbandis Nigerian and I'm West Indian-American. Even now that I'm married, I still find that Nigerian and other West African men are extra nice to me--except they know not to try and flirt. I think they know what they're doing when they find a woman who's as the author said "foreign."

    I did ask my husband about this topic. He doesn't seem to notice how a lot of Nigerian men only seem to marry Nigerian women if they knew them back home--seem to have a liking for American or Caribbean women. But, he did admit that he doesn't want to hold onto those traditions--traditions he believes a Nigerian wife would have insisted on.

    What I don't understand is how Nigerian women are so loyal. They seem to still want to marry a Nigerian man--especially from their culture Ibo, Yoruba....

     

  • At August 17, 2005 11:35 AM, Sellvi said…

    I`m an Indian girl, and I`m living together with my Igbo boyfriend of 2 years. He was married to a Japanese and divorced short before we met.
    He is different from all the Indian men I`ve known... and perhaps from most of the Nigerian men, anyway. He cooks every day (I can`t even make toast) and drives me to and fro from school and work.We shower together to save money and he scrubs my back and feet every day without being asked. I have serious bladder problems and have stained the bed countless times: He just smiles and helps me to clean the sheets.
    We are poor, and sometimes have less than 100 bucks to live by in a week. But somehow we just grit our teeth and put our hands together- and it makes me feel like we can conquer the world.
    About Igbo culture- I can`t speak the language, and eating stew everyday is hell. He knows it, and though he complains, doesn`t mind if I have my weekly dose of good-ol'- Indian curry. He doesn`t care for my culture either- but shows my race off like a trophy when we see his friends.
    Do i want to marry him? Yes. But i suppose the only fear that I have in this relationship is being compared to his much older ex-wife. (my man is 17 years elder to me) They have had a traditional marriage and I don`t know if I can go through it with him... perhaps i`m just jealous of his previous life.
    I don`t have anything to offer him: neither documents nor money, and I`m surprised he`s willing to be with me- all of his friends are married for money and Japanese Residensy- and they show it off well. My man in fact confirmed the fact that in Nigeria, marrying a foreign woman gives them and their families a special status within the community. (^_~;)
    I guess my boyfriend changed for me- and I`m willing to change for him too, though he never asked for it. He loves me, and I him,and isn`t that the core foundation of all relationships?

     

  • At August 17, 2005 8:54 PM, non-nigerian female said…

    Well, there is certainly a lot to be said on this topic. I am a Non-Nigerian (white) woman who prefers to date Nigerian men. There is a respect that a Nigerian man has for a woman that American men do not. It is very simple for me, they are polite, courteous, chivalrous, and they are very atentive in the bedroom. Before this article I was reading one written by a Nigerian woman who claims that Nigerian men and women have poor sexual relationships due to lack of communication. The Nigerian men I have been with intimately have been almost overly attentive in that area. They are very concerned that I am completely satisfied. I have experienced certain things that stand out like sore thumbs when it comes to Nigerian men. (Not all of them, just a couple). It seems they have a tendency to fall helplessly in love with you. To the extent of professing "Love" after just one date. Maybe the author of this article is right that they just want a green card, but I don't believe an American woman is dumb enough to fall for a man who is that eager to express his love. I know I was actually quite scared by this. So, as for not expressing feelings verbally, I disagree. I have met a couple that are very gaurded in revealing their feelings. They are also very hesitant to become involved in a realtionship. One man asked me to "go easy on him" I thought he was referring to the intimate part of our relationship, but when I asked him what he meant, he said to be gentle with his heart because he was developing deep feelings for me. So, I truly believe that what should be stressed in this forum is that each Nigerian man is an individual,with different preferences, social skills, and also with diffrent characteristics that appeal to different types (ethnicities of women). The other area I would llike to touch on is that of public displays of affection. I have seen both extremes in this respect. I have had a man who was bent on making out with me in a crowded bar in front of everyone there. This even made me, a fairly extroverted woman uncomfortable. There was a man who always wanted to hold my hand and lead the way. But most of them have just wanted to walk beside me without any pda's. Once again, all strictly individual preferences.

    I am fully aware of the fact that I might not be completely accepted by the family of my future husband. I am not sure of what to expect when going to Nigeria for the first time. I do know that one of the men I dated told me he would never want to take me there, because he was fearful something would happen to me...I never asked him to elaborate, so I can't tell you what. (This same man seemed to have predjudices against African Americans-he would not even associate with them. He had lived all over the world in many different countries, but still had never formed anything close to a relationship-even acquaintance with an African American.) But, the rest of the Nigerian men I have dated have expressed a great interest and excitement about taking me home to his family in Nigeria. This again demonstrates that all men are to be treated as individuals and not generalized into this Non-African liking and Nigerian liking. Each indiviual has their own unique set of circumstances that form the blueprint of who they are. While speaking with a Nigerian man on this particular topic, he explained it in a simliar way, he said that no one person in this world is alike and used his fingerprint as an example. He is one hundred percent correct in using that analogy. Things that we as human beings witness from the time we are born are constantly shaping and changing who we are. Even within certain cultural veins. I hope that all that has been said on this site can be used to shape who we all are and possibly change some extreme views to those that are more understanding to all points of view. Just because I was born in the backwoods of America (which is proof that no one can choose where they are born, or what ethnic group they belong to) does not mean I am any less suitable for a Nigerian man to marry.

    The men I have dated have told me that the reasons they date white women like me are as follows: they are gentle and caring in nature (I believe that in order to be caring one has to ask questions and listen carefully to what your partner is saying-not just assume that he will tell you if something is amiss), there has been much said about they erotic contrast of skin color, also the physical structure of a white woman compared to that of a black woman, white women are more receptive to the wants, needs, and thoughts of Nigerian men, I have also been told that it is a preconcieved notion that a Nigerian man should marry white women. There are many things that have come from the mouths of Nigerian men when asked this question, but the bottom line is that they will do what they want, regardless of what others say. Because we are all individuals...

     

  • At August 20, 2005 5:16 PM, Anonymous said…

    Wow.. i have certainly found this article and the replies very telling and interesting ... cross cultural marriages are complex, interesting, and if based on true love - very rewarding.

    i'm a naija girl born at home, very proud of my culture and my people - our men, our women, and our children. i think that a nigerian family is a beautiful thing and there is nothing that gladdens my heart more than seeing a newly wed nigerian couple. i think it is just lovely!!!!

    I don't know where all these talk about nigerian men being paternalistic and oppressive to nigerian women and not doing for them wha they will do for foreign women comes from. I think how a man relates to a woman depends on the type of relationship they have, the boundaries they have defined and how much they care about each other.

    i have dated lots of naija men, camerounian men, white american men, carribean, men, and european men. In my experience, the nigerian men i have dated ( except for one igbo guy, who was truly from the bush! ) have been gentle with me in the bedroom and otherwise, very proud of me, helpful, caring, and romantic. true, in the romance department, i had to do some prompting, but the nigerian men i have dated have usually been responsive, seeking really to ensure that i am happy. my first naija boyfriend taught me how to make egusi soup - he of course would have preferred that i knew already how to cook it. But he was not embarrassed about me not knowing how to cook it...he taught me and i learned.

    while i would generally prefer a well educated christian nigerian man for marriage, there are many things i appreciate about white men ( i.e, they are adventurous and see nothing wrong with spontaneously taking a week-end trip to some place romantic). Thus i think in the end, it is a matter of individual taste, and each person going where he/she finds happiness. Some nigerian men marry non nigerians or non africans, but there are plenty that marry nigerians and even go home to chose a wife ( which i don't blame them because naija girls at home are very beautiful, but materialistic).

    i have met nigerian men who want to date/ sleep with african american women, a few who want to marry them, some who want to marry white women,etc., and plenty who want to marry nigerian girls and are just looking for the right nigerian girl to marry. There's enough for everyone... and if you are my naija sis and you have not found the right naija man.. like the deranged lady who posted earlier suggested, consider a white man or some other man. I have found many ( especially europeans) who like us and appreciate our beauty.

    in the end.. it is God who puts a couple together, and God is not a respecter of ethnic boundaries...

     

  • At August 21, 2005 10:56 AM, Anonymous said…

    I am an African American women, I had been dating an Igbo man for over a year, We have concieved a child before marriage and now he says we cannot have a future because of his cultural background. His mother came here from Nigeria and I was unable to meet her because I was pregnant as to before he wanted me to meet her. Since she went back she has made arrangements for him to get married in Dec. where does that leave me? Help me to understand because I know he loves me.

     

  • At August 23, 2005 5:10 AM, Anonymous said…

    it seems you are left with a poor excuse for a man. don't think that all men are like that, this one is just a dog. but, know this, he will choose his family over you. just try to be strong and find someone who actually loves YOU and cares about YOU! not himself or his family

     

  • At August 23, 2005 8:57 PM, Anonymous said…

    I know that I could never compete with his family and I would never try to but, this man is almost 40yrs old and still lets his mother dictate is life. We are not togeter only because we have conceived a child out of wedlock, but so did his sister. He has 6 siblings and he is the youngest male, his mother has always put him in the "gold chair" and if she ever knew about his mistake that would devistate her, and I just think that he wants to remain perfect in her eyes and if that means to deny his only daughter then so be it. I feel for him and his situation but this is something that will always be on his conscious now and for ever. He makes a point to come and see his daughter every weekend and he is a great provider, but the reality of it all is that you are chosing to have another life because you didn't have the balls to tell the truth. I am so emotionally attatched to this man and I do try to put myself in his shoes and the more I try to understand the more I don't. I feel in my heart that he is struggling, but the decision is easy, be with the one you love and if he can't I guess that means he really doesn't.

     

  • At August 26, 2005 1:36 PM, Cynthia said…

    A Nigerian woman told me recently that Nigerian men marry Westerners for Green cards. She said this is a common practice. Now you are saying something different. Western women don't just throw away their husbands on a flimsy whim. Generally men do some very egregious things for her to throw away her marriage. I suspect that Nigerian men are using Western women and the outcome is that Westerners will not take the bullshit that Nigerian women are willing to take. I bet this has nothing to do with love, but has more to do with the culture you are brought up in. I for one have learned not to get involved with African men because they expect women to take things I simply can't accept. All in all, your analysis seems a bit dishonest.

     

  • At August 27, 2005 5:58 PM, Anonymous said…

    My childs father who is an Igbo man has never once disrespcted me. We have always respected one another and I believe we always will. The thing I don't understand is how is he going to adjust to this new life with a nigerian women and he has never been interested or been involved with a negerian women. We still hang out together I just wonder how things are going to change once he is a married man. I have never been the type of women to share a man.

     

  • At August 29, 2005 3:13 PM, Anonymous said…

    NIGERIANS? Why Generalize?

    I am a Jewish white american man and have dated only Nigerian women almost exclusively for the last 5 years. The reason is cause it seems 'they' (at least the ones that work in my law firm) have excellent pedigree- (children of 'elitist' families I think), and even when there are middle class are widely traveled and seem quite open minded.

    I find the views expressed here quite interesting as I am leaving for a destination in the South Eastern Nigria soon to meet my girlfriend's family (ssshhh.. she believes that if I am specific here I will be ambushed and killed).. lol
    I can also say quite honestly that a number of her friends have very low opinions of Nigerian men quite similar to that expressed by the lady in the blog of July 31st.

    I think it is a stereotype that might be unsubstantiated.. much like the racial inequality faced by some people of color here.
    I urge that rather than group all Nigerian men into a bunch of 'so called gorrillas' that they be judged on a one on one basis on their own recognissance.
    As for Nigerian women.. I think that as far as hot women here in Ohio with the WOW factor go.. Hmm.. My girl and her friends are HOTTTTTTTIES BO BODIES.... they run marathons, speak impeccable english and are mostly doctors... so if the men do not want them.. I daresay we do. I write on behalf of myself and my two partners who are looking over my shoulder as I type/

    There must be something great in this little African country.

    Best wishes to all.

     

  • At August 29, 2005 10:51 PM, Anonymous said…

    THE WORST SEX EVER

    I am an African American woman and am married to a nigerian for ten years. my fellow women who are married to them some american and some nigerian all say that sex is with their husbands is very bad and in nigeria sex is meant for the man only?
    there say they are not satisfied but have no solution because of the culture. is this true? can a woman not enjoy sex but only the man?

    my husband says he will not go to coupletherapy and i cannot continue with this mess. i cry all the time and i am tempted to sleep with his friends to hit on me when he is away.
    i make myself beautiful, i am slim and petite and have grown my hair long for him to be happy. yet nothing. still it is bad sex and not often.
    is it the african culture for a man not to satisfy his girlfriend or wife and if she complains he will say she is a whore or a bad wife?
    also, someone said that i am allowed in the custom of yoruba to have a boyfriebd for sex so long my husband do not know?

    my mother in law says she used to kill moskwitoes in nigeria when having sex and was suprised that i said the problem to her.
    she said i have three children and should be happy.
    please help if there is anyothr person sufferng this problem.

    Taquila O.

     

  • At September 04, 2005 9:27 AM, Anonymous said…

    I have been dating a Igbo man for about 2 months and I find it a challenge. He is gentle, kind, and easy to get along with most of the time. We have a lot in common although I am African-American. However, I, too, wish that he was better at expressing his feelings to me. He takes the time to talk with about his family, culture, and aspirations. For this reason I feel close to him and enchanted by him. However, things are not so good in the bedroom. As many others who posted messages before me have mentioned. I think I will try to discuss this topic with him before I assume that like others have stated that sexual pleasure is for nigerian men only. Has any other american women have issues expressing sexual dissatisfaction with nigerian men?

     

  • At September 04, 2005 3:33 PM, Anonymous said…

    Ok, I finally have to post this. I am an American woman who has dated several Nigerian men. Either they feel extrememly comfortable with me, or I expect reciprocation, but I have been very satisfied. Maybe you just need to speak to them about it. I am very open when it comes to sexual communication. I have seen post after post blaming these men for lack of sexual satisfaction, but no one has ever mentioned speaking to them about it. I have always had the experience of them being very concerned with whether or not I am pleased. I would love to be able to share with you the difference in the men I date and the ones whom you are speaking of, but I don't know that there is a difference. I think the diffeence needs to come from within you...tell them what you want and like, if you are embarassed about it, you may never get it. Sex can be a beautiful thing enjoyed by two people sharing love and compassion. It should not be a cold, lifeless experience in which one person is satisfied and one person remains unfulfilled. Please by all means, speak to your Nigerian men about this. Mine is just fine!

     

  • At September 04, 2005 3:34 PM, Anonymous said…

    Ok, I finally have to post this. I am an American woman who has dated several Nigerian men. Either they feel extrememly comfortable with me, or I expect reciprocation, but I have been very satisfied. Maybe you just need to speak to them about it. I am very open when it comes to sexual communication. I have seen post after post blaming these men for lack of sexual satisfaction, but no one has ever mentioned speaking to them about it. I have always had the experience of them being very concerned with whether or not I am pleased. I would love to be able to share with you the difference in the men I date and the ones whom you are speaking of, but I don't know that there is a difference. I think the diffeence needs to come from within you...tell them what you want and like, if you are embarassed about it, you may never get it. Sex can be a beautiful thing enjoyed by two people sharing love and compassion. It should not be a cold, lifeless experience in which one person is satisfied and one person remains unfulfilled. Please by all means, speak to your Nigerian men about this. Mine is just fine!

     

  • At September 06, 2005 6:15 PM, Anonymous said…

    Hello:

    I am a westindian woman who is dating a nigerian man.
    Our relationship will soon be over because I have repeatedly complained about sex and not having an orgasm. He is unwilling to change.

    I think maybe Nigerian women are horrible in bed and the men do not think they have to satisfy them if not, why is my boyfriend 47 yesr old saying no one has told him he is bad in bed?
    He has been married before and had many lovers. Its not enough to run around pretending you are well endowned when all you can do with it is when you are alone.
    Yes, I am very very very very freustrated. My relationship would have been better if he could say he will try and do some other stuff in bed or the park or something.
    I never had this problem with my jamaican lovers. I am so so so so tired of being frustrated.

    Jenna

     

  • At September 06, 2005 6:19 PM, Anonymous said…

    I find your comments interesting and intriguing. I am a white American woman married to a Nigerian. First, you assumed that ALL Nigerian men turn into romantic husbands when they leave Nigeria. Not true. My husband is a good husband in the things that truly matter but romantic he is not-at all. But he is there when I need him and he is a good dad. Second, you assume ALL American women are like those you see on T.V. - not true either. I believe very much in family values and raising the children. I do however demand respect. Thirdly, we married in Nigeria after we had met in a different country and spent time together there. And lastly and most IMPORTANTLY - God gave us both instructions before we ever started dating that we were to be married. So, in faith we married and it has been a good union. There are times I truly miss being around his family and I offered to live in Nigeria.

     

  • At September 06, 2005 7:50 PM, Anonymous said…

    Does anyone know of anybody who has experienced a situation as mine that was mentioned on Aug. 21. If so please comment. I am seriously struggling with this.

     

  • At September 07, 2005 11:52 AM, Anonymous said…

    Madam from August 21st blog:

    I am at a loss regarding what kind of advise you would like to be offered on this site.
    It is commonly known and accepted the world over that if a cultural practice is contrary to common sense beliefs, equity and good conscience- It should be ignored.

    That being said however, I can tell you as a Nigerian man that not meeting his mother and being a secret is not Nigerian culture, His marrying another woman while you are pregnant with his child is not part of Nigerian Culture but it is a part of the culture of 'gutter snipes' who refuse to take responsibility for their actions (see also "irresponsible" definition in dictionary).

    In order words, it seems your 'boyfriend'(if you really think he has earned this title) is in all respects to be a very poor representative of Nigeria and probably belongs to the miserable constituent of men and women who give Nigeria a bad name.

    Lastly, although you have not sought my advise in particular on this subject, you will be well advised to obtain the services of a physcologist who might assist you in uncovering the reason why you have settled for this type of relationship and treatment.

    Good Luck.

     

  • At September 14, 2005 8:09 AM, Anonymous said…

    i'm a nigerian girl, and guess what..... my current boyfriend is kenyan, uncircumsized, he treats me like an angel, loves me to bits and fantastic in bed.

     

  • At September 15, 2005 10:13 AM, Anonymous said…

    i have a nigerian boyfriend that i have been with now for a year. i am an African-American girl, and i truly and honestly believe that it is wrong for nigerian women to get upset about nigerian men having "foreign wives" or being more loving or generous to them. ARE THEY ENTITLED TO YOU? Do u think american women get upset when american men date other nationalities? hell no! times have changed ladies. that is how it is. my boyfriends mother has told me that she doesnt want him with a nigerian woman. when i asked her why, she said that it is because they have motives that are not honest. for whatever reasons they have, its their own opinion. all i am saying is that ALL OF THEM ARE TRULY DIFFERENT. i have been told that nigerian men love american women because they dont take any shit. they WANT to be taken care of..but also have a woman that can take care of herself! when i went to nigeria, i heard so many unhappy women say they could not leave their men because they would be homeless, and poor. they were stuck home with kids..and they never went out or got dressed up, and their men are out doing GOD KNOWS WHAT. is that the tradition you are holding on to? AN UNHAPPY ONE? be with who u love. it has nothing to do with color or creed. i have learned to speak yoruba for my boyfriend, and i did it on my own. it is because i found a man that is willing to learn from other cultural perspectives, and take advantage of the fact that he can enjoy opening up his mind to a woman that will please him spiritually, mentally, and definately sexually. one thing i noticed is that a lot of them are not holding on to tradition, you nigerian women are. dont get me wrong, i think that is beautiful, how loyal you are. but let yourself be happy!! explore! see how it feels when a man wakes you up in the middle of the night to make love to you until the sun comes up, and is eager to make sure you fall asleep satisfied. i have found that..and i will be damned if i let any woman take my man..nigerian or not. thats when you can say a man is yours..when he gives you his everything. NOT BECAUSE YOU ARE FROM THE SAME COUNTRY, AND SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE!!

     

  • At September 15, 2005 2:05 PM, Anonymous said…

    Hello There African American:
    (This is in response to the blog before my own)

    I found your piece interesting.
    I agree that Nigerian women should think outside the box but it is also important to note that according to Statistics in the United States of America, the African American Woman is the least likely to marry outside her race.
    My point? Man is a tribal animal and unless complelled to think outside the box or meander out of the familiar^will stick to those similar to him.
    I do admire Nigerian women who want to wait and marry us but unfortunately the society places such a heavy premuim on marriage that loads of women will do anything and take anything from a man just to get married to him.
    For a lot of Nigerian women(whom I have either dated or know) marriage is an end in itself and not a means to an end: the end being the marriage and procreation.

    I have gone through a lot of therapy to try and understand why my ex-wife flipped the script AFTER we got married. I discovered that a lot of women overseas have become emancipated and want to be treated more like equals but pretend to be traditional so that they marry. Happily, there is fierece competition out there for us.

    Also, when you talk about women who could not leave their husbands etc etc that you met in Nigeria, it is not their fault because the society is set up in a way that women are beholden to men unless they are economically stable. There is no social security, welfare, projects or foodstamps that African Americans have here so they have to hold onto us for survival.
    It is good to read about African Americans who have found good Nigerian men :)

     

  • At September 16, 2005 8:17 AM, Anonymous said…

    i have a question..i want to know why nigerian men really marry outside or their nationality. not that im complaining, or that there is a reason. i am african american..and i am here listening to hear-say that men have told their foreign wives..but i really want to hear from nigerian men that agree or disagree with this article(which i personally think is rubbish)on why they look to marry foreign women. i plan to marry a nigerian man. he knows it..and is telling me that he loves me and thinks i would make a great wife for him. he wont quite say why he wont marry a nigerian woman. i just want to see how the mind of some nigerian men really work. please write in, and tell us what makes u even the slightest bit curious about us foreign women??? do u really do things for us that u dont do for nigerian women? if so, please tell why...im so interested in knowing that!!

     

  • At September 16, 2005 10:08 AM, ELLENTOMIYE@AOL.COM said…

    HELLO,
    LET ME START BY SAYING THAT I WAS BORN IN THE U.S AND I AM A BLACK, NEGRO OR AFRICAN-AMERICAN WHAT-EVER PEOPLE CHOSE TO REFER TO US AS TODAY. TO ME, I AM ALL OF THE ABOVE AND I AM PROUD OF IT. MY HUSBAND IS NIGERIAN AND I HAVE NEVER IN MY MIND THOUGHT THAT FELLOW BLACK PEOPLE OR AFRICANS WOULD THINK OF US THIS WAY,ESPECIALLY THESE NIGERIAN WOMAN WOMAN. FIRST OF ALL WE ARE NOT THEIR FOREIGN WIVES. LET ME TELL YOU WHO YOU ARE CALLING FOREIGN, MY PEOPLE,THE ONES THAT WERE NOT STOLEN BUT SOLD INTO SLAVERY BY JEALOUS SO CALLED FELLOW AFRICAN NEGROS TO THE WHITE MAN. WE WERE SOLD FOR WEAPONS,CLOTHES AND/OR FOOD. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW STRONG WE ARE, YOU DON'T KNOW US. NO WE ARE NOT NIGERIANS, WE ARE AFRICANS, WE ARE EVERY PIECE OF AFRICA AND OUR AFRICAN BLOOD AND SWEAT BUILT THIS PLACE WHERE YOU NOW CALL YOUR HOME. THIS IS NOT YOUR HOME, THIS IS NOT EVEN THE WHITE MAN'S HOME THIS U.S HOME WAS BUILT BY US. YOU ALL ARE FOREIGNERS. YOU JUST MOVE IN AND PUT US BLACKS DOWN AND CALL THIS PLACE YOUR HOME, CONCERN YOURSELF WITH OUR POLITICS AND ECONOMIC ISSUES, WHILE YOU WESTERN UNION A FEW DOLLARS BACK HOME TO MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE YOU ARE A BIG HIT HERE IN MY AMERICA, CAN WE JUST CALL YOUR AFRICA (WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY OUR AFRICA) HOME? HOW WOULD YOU ALL FEEL IF WE CONCERNED OURSELVES WITH YOUR CORRUPT POLITICAL OR ECONOMIC ISSUES? (ALTHOUGH I SURE IT WOULD'NT HURT THAT SITUATION OVER THERE AT ALL) DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR BROTHERS SISTERS MOTHERS FATHERS CHILDREN COUSINS AUNTS AND UNCLES WENT THROUGH ON THE WAY TO THE U.S AFTER BEING SOLD BY SO CALLED BROTHERS SISTERS CHILDREN, COUSINS AUNTS UNCLES MOTHERS & FATHERS ? OUR PEOPLE, WAIT, LET ME CHANGE THAT, MY PEOPLE WERE BEAT,RAPED MUTILATED AND KILLED FOR THE PURE HELL OF IT, AND THAT WAS JUST ON THE WAY HERE FROM AFRICA. ONCE THEY WERE HERE IN MY AMERICA, THEY WERE AUCTIONED OFF, THE ONLY NAME THEY EVER HAD THE NAME THAT HAD MEANING WAS CHANGED TO A WHITE MAN'S NAME THAT THEY COULD'NT EVEN PRONOUNCE! THEIR LANGUAGE WAS CHANGED, AND IF THEY UTTERED A WORD OF YORUBA OR ANY OF THE LANGUAGE THAT MADE THEM UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER THEY WERE BEAT WITH WHIPS OR KILLED. CAN YOU IMAGINE BEING HUNDREDS OF MILES AWAY FROM YOUR FAMILY AND YOU COULD'NT EVEN EXPRESS YOURSELF THROUGH THE WORDS THAT YOU HAD SPOKEN ALL OF YOUR LIFE? BABIES WHERE RIPPED FROM MOTHERS ARMS, HUSBANDS FROM WIVES BROTHERS FROM SISTERS. BUT YET THESE STRONG PEOPLE, MY PEOPLE THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE KEPT GETTING STRONGER AND STRONGER, I HAVE ON OCCAISION HEARD A REFERENCE TO MY LIGHT SKIN,FROM NIGERIANS HERE GROWING UP AND HEARING IT FROM FELLOW NEGROS THAT WERE BORN HERE IN MY U.S IT BOTHERED AND SOMETIMES STILL BOTHERS ME BECAUSE THEY SHOULD KNOW BETTER. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE IGNORANT AND THE BRAIN BLIND, I JUST SMILE BECAUSE DO YOU THINK THIS HAPPENED AS A FREAK ACCIDENT, MAYBE I DID'NT GET ENOUGH SUN HUH? NO IT CAME FROM THE HUNDREDS OF YEARS MY BLACK GRANDMOTHERS FROM AFRICA WERE RAPED ON THE REGULAR BY SOME DEVILISH ASS WHITE MAN WHO WOULD NEVER HAD HAD A CHANCE OF MISTREATING MY PEOPLE THIS WAY IF IT WONT FOR SO-CALLED FELLOW AFRICANS, SO THE SMILES COMES FROM KNOWING THAT NO MATTER HOW MISTREATED MY GREAT-GRANDS WERE, THEY STAYED STRONG FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS MY GENERATIONS AND THE GENERATIONS THAT WILL FOLLOW. AS FAR AS THE COMMENT ABOUT THE WHITE WOMEN AND THE NIGERIAN MEN, I THOUGHT MOST OF YOU ALL WERE CRAZY ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE? YOU SEEM TO LOVE THEM MORE THAN YOU EVEN LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT BARE THE SAME SKIN TONE AS YOU, SO WHATS THE PROBLEM? AND AS FAR AS US BEING QUICK TO THROW OUR HUSBANDS OUT, CALL THE POLICE, OR SERVE DIVORCE PAPERS, YES WE ARE DO YOU KNOW WHY BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE STONE AGE AND EVERYONE SHOULD ACT ACCORDINGLY. NO ONE SERVES DIVORCE PAPERS FOR NOTHING, AND ANOTHER THING WE AS BLACK AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN HAVE PUT UP WITH AS MUCH AS ONE CAN PUT UP WITH, WE DON'T AND WON'T PUT UP WITH NONSENSE WHEN YOU FEEL AS THOUGH WE SHOULD GRIN AND BARE IT. HAVE'NT WE DONE THAT ENOUGH? THE SEX AND US ONLY WANTING NIGERIAN MEN FOR IT, PLEASE, YOU HAVE TO TEACH THEM EVERYTHING, EVEN KISSING! IT'S LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN HUMPING WOOD BEFORE YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WITHOUT FEELINGS. THE POINT ABOUT THEM DOING THINGS FOR US THAT THEY WOULD'NT DO FOR NIGERIANS, YES BECAUSE WE DEMAND MORE. I HAVE TAUGHT MY HUSBAND BOWLING, CRABBING, WE GO FISHING TO THE MOVIES AND WE TRY DIFFERENT RESTARAUNTS I COOK AND HE ALSO COOKS WE BOTH WORK AND I AM FULL TIME IN SCHOOL. I AM NOT FOOLING MY SELF I KNOW THAT MY HUSBAND LOVES ME AS I LOVE HIM. AND TO ALL OF YOU FROM ME, THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS.

     

  • At September 24, 2005 6:09 PM, Anonymous said…

    MADAM AKA THE AFRICAN AMERICAN WHO IS RAVING ON THIS BOARD!!! USE SMALL CAPS AS THIS BOLD WRITING IN CAPS IS RUDE AND IN THE ON-LINE SOCIETY MEANS YOU ARE SHOUTING!!

    The greatest rejection and problems I have experienced as a Nigerian American have been from the African American Society.

    While the empassioned write up from the author who choose to write so angrily in bold letters seems to imply that africans sold africans put of jealousy.. That is completely false. Slavery existed and still exists in the African societies to date. The only difference however is that it was a form of indentured servitude and the person ceased being a slave once the debt was paid. Contrary to what she wrote, the weakest and poorest in a lot of Africa were sold to the Slave traders. After a while the slace traders then took upon themselves to capture and roam Africa as they deemed fit.

    I am very disinterested in opinions about Nigerians, Africans etc because it is trash. We are all different and even though we grew up in the same country the class based system which was entrenched by the British makes the behavior of someone like a Tejuosho very different from that of a Nasiru even though they are both ostensibly Lagosians and Nigerians.
    The differences in attitude and outlook have several socio economic and other basis and the generalization of africans makes no sense and cannot even begin to be properly addressed in this forum.

     

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